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How to avoid burns at the gap in conductive loops?

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 1:56 pm
by stimmingexperiments
I'm following all the standard advice like use lube, keep them tight, etc but I still keep getting burns when using conductive loops. It happens at the gap where they go through the plastic gripper thing. Some burns are quite nasty, like little cigarette burns.

I have some ideas:

1. Switch to straps but apparently they're not as good?

2. What is the proper name for the plastic spring things that hold the loops together? Maybe I can find wider ones that would make the loops lay flat against my cock.

3. A shorter version of these 3D printed insulators: https://www.sexmachinereviews.co.uk/diy ... lator.html

4. Use electrical tape to make something like the 3D printed insulators.

Re: How to avoid burns at the gap in conductive loops?

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 2:55 pm
by Stimaddict
Some men's 'intimate' skin is just more sensitive than others. If you are using proper conductive gel and your CR loops are at least 6mm diameter then maybe they are not for you. I'd suggest you change to TENS pads, and hold them in place with paper tape or a large women's hair clip like this one: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/172785208993

Re: How to avoid burns at the gap in conductive loops?

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:28 pm
by stimmingexperiments
I used TENS pads before I got the straps and I hated them. As soon as any corner starts coming up it's super prickly. I still use them on my perineum but I have to duct tape them down otherwise my skin will peel like sunburn the next day.

I'm using the E-Stim 4mm straps and lube. The problem with the straps seems obviously mechanical to me and I just need to insulate the bad spot or find a different way of connecting the loop together.

Re: How to avoid burns at the gap in conductive loops?

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:12 am
by Stimaddict
Again it sounds like you have particularly sensitive skin. These burns you are getting need time to heal, at least 2 weeks (IMHO) between sessions.

After they've healed I'd also suggest that you regularly apply moisturising cream to these affected areas on days when you are NOT stimming. Don't use any creams or lotions immediately prior to a stim session. Especially avoid oils such as coconut oil.

Re: How to avoid burns at the gap in conductive loops?

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:35 pm
by mrbutt89
Here's a thought that may not work but may be worth a try....

CR loops normally pass through the plastic clip, both ends from the same side. Is it possible to re-insert one end from the other side of the clip, and is that any better? Or can you get a piece of CR tubing long enough to go round your member twice, so there's no real gap anywhere?

Re: How to avoid burns at the gap in conductive loops?

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 5:23 pm
by stimmingexperiments
mrbutt89 wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:35 pm
Here's a thought that may not work but may be worth a try....

CR loops normally pass through the plastic clip, both ends from the same side. Is it possible to re-insert one end from the other side of the clip, and is that any better? Or can you get a piece of CR tubing long enough to go round your member twice, so there's no real gap anywhere?
Yes I actually discovered this while playing with the loops looking for things to try but I haven't tested it yet. I think it will work at the base but will be awkward at the head due to the "spiral" it creates and the clips are rounded so they still won't sit flush.

If the holes in the clips were closer together to reduce the "spiral" and the sides of the clips were concave rather than convex to fit closer to my dick I think this would work well. Maybe I need to 3D print something.

Another thing I was thinking was to use something to pinch the loop together before it enters the clip.

Re: How to avoid burns at the gap in conductive loops?

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:10 am
by Imogen
I normally wrap CR loops around my cock twice to get rid of any 'hot spots' lke this.
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xxx Imogen

Re: How to avoid burns at the gap in conductive loops?

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:31 am
by Stimaddict
Good idea Imogen. The extra surface area helps dissipate the load. More surface area means better conductivity.
This one from Joanne's range would be excellent for avoiding hot-spots - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/202991228387

Burns occur when a charge builds up under the electrode. If conductivity is good current easily enters the tissue of the body with very little resistance. When conductivity is poor the electrical current faces resistance on its way into the body generating heat, with the potential for burns. That's why proper conductive gel is pretty much essential with all external electrodes, other than TENS pads which have their own layer of conductive gel.

This is also why electrodes should only be applied to clean, dry skin. Most creams and lotions, especially oils, are electrical insulators. That means they increase skin resistance thus reducing conductivity.

Re: How to avoid burns at the gap in conductive loops?

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:57 am
by Stimaddict
stimmingexperiments wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 5:23 pm
Another thing I was thinking was to use something to pinch the loop together before it enters the clip.
You could remove the clip altogether, insert a length of thick copper wire into the CR tubing then bend it around your cock.

Re: How to avoid burns at the gap in conductive loops?

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:15 pm
by joannesReviews
Cracking advice from Stimaddict as always. I would definitely recommend inserting some copper wire down your cock loops. You can then do away with the spring loaded locks and just wrap it around your happy chap like this.

It sounds like you are using old conductive rubber that may have lost some of its conductivity and so all of the electrical energy is going g into your skin in the first few mm of the conductive rubber. Inserting copper wire will help with getting the current to flow evenly around the loop and it gives old CR a new lease of life.

With copper wire inserted you can easily create something like this with lots of surface contact and much less risk of hot spots.
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