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"Numbing Out" is just a normal factor of estim. When you first start a session your sexual nerves are quite sensitive before becoming gradually acclimatized to sensation over time. The longer you stim the more your nerves become desensitized until numbness begins to set in, although it's usually longer than an hour before it becomes a problem. Just keep upping those power knobs.

The best tip is to introduce one-minute stops towards the end of a session. Turn the power down to zero and wait one full minute before starting again. Repeat this every 10 minutes or so. You will find it feels much better as sensation returns.

Other tips: Keep your penis warm, maybe by laying a towel over it. If you feel numbness setting in stop, turn OFF the power and manually massage your penis a few times to maintain blood flow before resuming.

Read this post and make sure you are not double-stimming your Dorsal Nerve, the one that runs along the top of your cock:
** Understanding your MALE SEXUAL NERVES - viewtopic.php?f=11&t=10131

Also see: ** ERECTION Tips and Tricks - viewtopic.php?f=11&t=9956


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Ronfire7 wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 4:47 am I find that I am flaccid almost all the times I stim and still manage a HFO, usually 60 to 90 min, have managed as fast as 20 min .
As previously stated it is mostly the frame of mind. I find at time I am better off without the porn and work from memories, do have a few great ones.
Cheers, yeah it occurs to me now that the psychological factor might well be primary, and estim mostly just to help your body follow along. Instead of the other way around as often seems to be the case with porn.

I stumbled upon some erotic audio and ASMR stuff a while ago, which seems like it could work well with this too.

Thanks!
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beem2713 wrote: Sat Jan 01, 2022 8:34 pm I have now edited a sound file together and I can achieve HFO in about 4 minutes if I so desire, every time.
Do you happen to have particular suggestions as to the ingredients of such a sound file?

I recently came across various so-called ASMR recordings which often sounds very close and intimate, with things like soft breathing/kissing/moaning into your ear.

And other erotic audio that is largely narrative driven (specifically Eve's Garden in this case but I'm sure there are many others).

So this gets me thinking what other kinds of audio could work well with estim. For example I could probably find tons of "hypnotic" stuff on various porn sites that mix things like binaural beats, JOI, suggestion/"programming" and that kind of thing.

Obviously it depends on the individual, just thinking out loud here. Ideas welcome.
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Stimaddict wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 10:11 am "Numbing Out" is just a normal factor of estim. When you first start a session your sexual nerves are quite sensitive before becoming gradually acclimatized to sensation over time. The longer you stim the more your nerves become desensitized until numbness begins to set in, although it's usually longer than an hour before it becomes a problem. Just keep upping those power knobs.

The best tip is to introduce one-minute stops towards the end of a session. Turn the power down to zero and wait one full minute before starting again. Repeat this every 10 minutes or so. You will find it feels much better as sensation returns.

Other tips: Keep your penis warm, maybe by laying a towel over it. If you feel numbness setting in stop, turn OFF the power and manually massage your penis a few times to maintain blood flow before resuming.

Read this post and make sure you are not double-stimming your Dorsal Nerve, the one that runs along the top of your cock:
** Understanding your MALE SEXUAL NERVES - viewtopic.php?f=11&t=10131

Also see: ** ERECTION Tips and Tricks - viewtopic.php?f=11&t=9956
Thanks for all the tips.

Between pads, CR loops and the anal egg, I seem to gravitate toward just the pads. One on my perineum (careful to avoid the scrotal nerves which feels awful), and one just below the glans (either dorsal or ventral, but from your linked post I guess dorsal is a good idea so as not to exclude that dorsal nerve). I'm not averse to the loops but they just don't seem to work as well as pads. Unfortunately pads on limp dicks can be tricky as well.

Not too fond of anal estim so far, it just doesn't feel good at least with the egg. Although I might have to reconsider for tri-phase, which sounds interesting. I've tried to get some tri-phase action going before (without anal), just various pad or pad/loop setups, but I'm not entirely sure what I'm doing or what to expect. Also from what I've read, it seems like a simple custom-built power box driven by a stereo input (for use with specially made audio/signal files), might be the better choice for tri-phase stuff.
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Pinocchio wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 5:10 pm
soundcraft wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 12:59 pm This has happened to me a few times and I find its normally because I have ramped up current too fast when I was not in the right frame of mind.
I'm not really a fan of porn I find it more stimulating to use my imagination, Sometimes playing back experiences that where really great or ideas
I would like to try.
Definitely worth considering, thanks. I think I may have tried increasing the levels in attempts to maintain arousal, but maybe that's just counter productive and I should slow it down and not rely too much on zapping.

Cheers
I would say that is where your going wrong, Normally for me I will bring up the level and wait for a bit. If it makes me more aroused I bring it up a little more and wait and see how I react. It does take patience and practice. The mental state is key. Sometimes getting electroids in just the right places can take some time.

I have only been estiming for 6 months and 4 of them months I never got close. However some of that was because I was using a cheap tens unit. however having the extra power and flexibility of a proper box can also have the opposite effect if you do high the power too soon. I am practising to get my HFO on lower and lower settings.
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soundcraft wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 9:45 am I would say that is where your going wrong, Normally for me I will bring up the level and wait for a bit. If it makes me more aroused I bring it up a little more and wait and see how I react. It does take patience and practice. The mental state is key. Sometimes getting electroids in just the right places can take some time.

I have only been estiming for 6 months and 4 of them months I never got close. However some of that was because I was using a cheap tens unit. however having the extra power and flexibility of a proper box can also have the opposite effect if you do high the power too soon. I am practising to get my HFO on lower and lower settings.
Yep, had my first HFO last night. Not too shabby! Right up there with a good edging session, but without touching, which is quite amazing. Also learned that sticky pads don't like bodily fluids... oops.

Mental frame was indeed everything. I wasn't actually planning on estimming last night, was laying in bed and about to go to sleep but decided to briefly listen to some of the erotic audio's first that I found yesterday.

Turned out they were quite awesome. Lots of good stuff here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/gonewildaudio/

Accidentally got a boner and decided to take advantage of the situation. Lost my boner again due to the interruption of getting out my kit and setting it up. But then I actually regained a semi while estimming, so that was a first. Also noticed how much of a difference the feeling makes when you're already mentally aroused and not trying to "brute force" anything. And I'm sure the semi also physically helped. Estimming suddenly became a whole different experience!

Simple single-channel setup with one pad on my perineum and one pad right on top of my glans, dorsal side (on the foreskin that is). Tried just below the glans at first but actually found moving it up to the top felt better this time. After that just played around with the various patterns and controls. Where everything I had tried in the past seemed to be counterproductive, this time everything suddenly just seemed to work for me. All due to mental frame. Which in this case was all due to the awesome audio.

Bit of a shame that most of the patterns on the ElectroPebble are pulse based. I find the transition from off to on a bit jarring and uncomfortable at higher levels, would probably be better if they could smooth out the ramp up just a bit instead of instantaneously. Also not sure Audio (microphone) is really usable in practice. So that leaves Flo, Tease and Torment, but those do work nicely for me! Actually Tease has a very brief gap between every cycle which is similarly uncomfortable, but still great at lower levels. Torment seems to be my favorite at this point.

So, looks like it's turning around for me now. Thanks for all your help guys, much appreciated.

Btw. still interested if anyone happens to have suggestions wrt. audio, tri-phase setups, or anything really.
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Pinocchio wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 10:59 am
soundcraft wrote: Tue Jan 04, 2022 9:45 am I would say that is where your going wrong, Normally for me I will bring up the level and wait for a bit. If it makes me more aroused I bring it up a little more and wait and see how I react. It does take patience and practice. The mental state is key. Sometimes getting electroids in just the right places can take some time.

I have only been estiming for 6 months and 4 of them months I never got close. However some of that was because I was using a cheap tens unit. however having the extra power and flexibility of a proper box can also have the opposite effect if you do high the power too soon. I am practising to get my HFO on lower and lower settings.
Yep, had my first HFO last night. Not too shabby! Right up there with a good edging session, but without touching, which is quite amazing. Also learned that sticky pads don't like bodily fluids... oops.

Mental frame was indeed everything. I wasn't actually planning on estimming last night, was laying in bed and about to go to sleep but decided to briefly listen to some of the erotic audio's first that I found yesterday.

Turned out they were quite awesome. Lots of good stuff here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/gonewildaudio/

Accidentally got a boner and decided to take advantage of the situation. Lost my boner again due to the interruption of getting out my kit and setting it up. But then I actually regained a semi while estimming, so that was a first. Also noticed how much of a difference the feeling makes when you're already mentally aroused and not trying to "brute force" anything. And I'm sure the semi also physically helped. Estimming suddenly became a whole different experience!

Simple single-channel setup with one pad on my perineum and one pad right on top of my glans, dorsal side (on the foreskin that is). Tried just below the glans at first but actually found moving it up to the top felt better this time. After that just played around with the various patterns and controls. Where everything I had tried in the past seemed to be counterproductive, this time everything suddenly just seemed to work for me. All due to mental frame. Which in this case was all due to the awesome audio.

Bit of a shame that most of the patterns on the ElectroPebble are pulse based. I find the transition from off to on a bit jarring and uncomfortable at higher levels, would probably be better if they could smooth out the ramp up just a bit instead of instantaneously. Also not sure Audio (microphone) is really usable in practice. So that leaves Flo, Tease and Torment, but those do work nicely for me! Actually Tease has a very brief gap between every cycle which is similarly uncomfortable, but still great at lower levels. Torment seems to be my favorite at this point.

So, looks like it's turning around for me now. Thanks for all your help guys, much appreciated.

Btw. still interested if anyone happens to have suggestions wrt. audio, tri-phase setups, or anything really.


First of congrates on your first HFO
I tend to use pulse modes to warm up with then some form of flow to finish. Although I have managed to finish with pulse type modes too but thats taken some time. Again I think its down to patience and practice.
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Maybe the description of my current routine can help:

https://www.e-stim.net/viewtopic.php?p=22826#p22826
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Many thanks guys. I'll be reading that thread, Deltus.

I've had two more HFO's since last time. Audio is really a great way to get that imagination going. And sometimes the right audio even seems to bypass imagination and just makes me hard involuntarily, almost like a hardwired response. Having at least somewhat of an erection really makes a huge difference. At least when it's from genuine arousal (incl. mental), I don't know about pills or vacuum pumps.

I've also noticed that my body tends to become tense when the zapping starts, which seems to be counterproductive in almost every way. So relaxation seems to be an important point as well.

It also helps a lot to focus on the sensations and feel them as though it's massaging you rather than electrocuting you, lol... It can actually feel like physical touch, and this also seems to make a big difference. And as with massages, more isn't always better, instead you can set the controls "just right" in the moment.

I also find that manual stimulation at any point during a session detracts from the e-stim sensations for the rest of the session, so I think it's best avoided.

I think Stimaddict mentions some of these things as well. Just thought I'd emphasize what seems to work for me and throw in my two cents. Hopefully someone else reading this might find it useful.

Cheers
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beem2713 wrote: Sat Jan 01, 2022 8:34 pm I was stimming for over 15 years with various devices and not once go close to HFO. about 8 months or so ago the magic HFO occurred, totally out of the blue. I too was numb and flaccid at the time but it was amazing. I have now edited a sound file together and I can achieve HFO in about 4 minutes if I so desire, every time. Stimulating the prostate and the glans are the secret for me.
Heh I assumed that by sound file you meant one for listening to, but it occurs to me you might have meant one for using as input to a power box. (alas I only have an ElectroPebble, which doesn't support this).

For clarity, my ramblings about audio in this thread are just about things to listen to. As kinda porn for the ears/imagination. I mostly estim in bed so far, and play these audios on my phone with wireless earbuds, it's just perfect.
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