E-Stim and water?

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congeuro
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E-Stim and water?

Post by congeuro » Sat Jul 27, 2019 6:46 am

Probably a really stupid idea, but have seen some combined vacuum and e-stim tubes that use water to “diffuse” the sensation across a larger area.

Has anyone tried these?

Could you get a similar sensation using CR loops in the bath? Obviously it would be using a battery for the box, but how far out would the field spread in water?

Just curious to know if it would do anything!

*stands back waiting for all the “you’ll die” responses”



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Re: E-Stim and water?

Post by estimbird » Mon Jul 29, 2019 4:46 pm

congeuro wrote:
Sat Jul 27, 2019 6:46 am
Could you get a similar sensation using CR loops in the bath? Obviously it would be using a battery for the box, but how far out would the field spread in water?
I've tried it this way - one loop at the base, the other loop immersed into water, and the glans dipped into the water, too - and it works. The distance: difficult to say, at least 10 cm have worked okay.

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Re: E-Stim and water?

Post by Stimaddict » Mon Jul 29, 2019 6:21 pm

Contrary to popular belief water is not a good conductor of electricity. You would have to dump a sack of salt into your bathwater to make it more conductive.

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Re: E-Stim and water?

Post by estimbird » Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:08 pm

Stimaddict wrote:
Mon Jul 29, 2019 6:21 pm
Contrary to popular belief water is not a good conductor of electricity. You would have to dump a sack of salt into your bathwater to make it more conductive.
For me, it worked without salt - not as intense as direct contact, but pretty good. I'm not an electrician, so I have no explanation why it worked at all.

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Re: E-Stim and water?

Post by Stimaddict » Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:42 am

Water does conduct electricity, just not very well for stimming purposes because it contains very few ions to carry the current. When salt (sodium chloride) is added it conducts much better because the solution now contains more sodium ions. Trouble is salt doesn't dissolve well without boiling.

However baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) dissolves easily and is fully ionized in water, creating an environment of mobile positively (sodium ions) and negatively (bicarbonate) charged ions which can readily carry charge from from the electrode to your skin. That's why water-based lubes can be made more conductive for stimming by taking a small amount and adding a pinch of baking soda (*not* baking powder).

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Re: E-Stim and water?

Post by estimbird » Tue Jul 30, 2019 3:45 pm

Thanks for your great explanation.
Stimaddict wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:42 am
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That's why water-based lubes can be made more conductive for stimming by taking a small amount and adding a pinch of baking soda (*not* baking powder).
I think I should really try this. Thanks for the hint 8-)

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Re: E-Stim and water?

Post by Blahdiblow » Thu Aug 29, 2019 11:43 pm

Just as a hint: Using some conductive tape, you can easily transform a standard penis pump into a DIY LiquaStim device. Just run it from the outside into the cylinder. You won't be able to fill it from the top but with a bit of practice it works ;)

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